Arabs and Semities Connection

- Ancient Semitic peoples -

# Arabs, Old North Arabian speaking Bedouins * Gindibu's Arabs 9th c. BC

 * Lihyanites — 6th to 1st c. BC * Thamud people — 2nd to 5th c. AD * Ghassanids — 3rd to 7th c. AD * Nabataeans — adopted Arabic in the 4th century AD.

Thats taken straight forward from wikipedia.

Please if you think arabs are not semite show them some scientific evidence and dis-proven them.

Arabs was and always will be Semitec.

Arabs are Semities, Because they speak Arabic and Arabic is a Semetic Language. Ishameal was an Arabized immigrant the Arabs and Arabic existed before him. 

The Bedouin, the most direct descendants of the ancient Arabs, are characterized by an utter predominance of J1, unlike Semitic populations.

all Arabs go back to Qahtan, Adnan, and both are Semites, so cut the crap buddy!

The Palestinian Christians and certain Muslim fellaheen tribes and clans of mountain regions are of Jewish descent, however the Palestinian Arabs of the cities and deserts are of Arab descent.

here are Arabs, particularly from the second group who exhibit a remarkable light features and resemble the Assyrians. Indeed, the physical description of Muhammed PBUH reflect an individual of a light complexion.

The Arabs of the Arabian peninsula do not share the exact same lineage or phenotype. There are two major categories of Arabs: one that is called "Aarebah" and their origin is believed to be in Yemen and the other one is referred to as "Mostaarebah" which are the desendant of Ishmail and from which prophet Muhammed PBUH was genetically derived).

MysteryMoe: Thanks for the questions. The Hebrew word for "Arab" (ayin resh beth yod) appears in about 13 verses in the bible, and in none of those verses does it suggest that the people referred to are related to Ishmael.

However the Ishamelitie tribe of Kedar was in Arabia. And this is where Adnan the ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad comes from, Kedar. 

The Ishmaelite territory described in the bible essentially encompasses areas surrounding biblical Israel, such as the Negev, northern Levant, etc., but not really Arabia Deserta, although all these areas are obviously close to each other

OKay I understand it said in Genesis that Ishmael dwelt in the plain/land of Havilah bordering Egypt and Israel---that would be part of the Arabian desert.

"Arabia Deserta" is a phrase that refers to the central deserts of the Arabian peninsula, and is thought to be where the bedouin were mainly concentrated, although there were of course eventually trade routes that brought them to the levant and syria. I believe the earliest mention of Arabs in the bible is in the book of Chronicles, which is thought to have been written in the 5th c BC, I believe.

The Copts and fellahin would be the direct descendants of the original Egyptians, who were not Semitic.

The video in fact states that the earliest mention of Arabs was about the 9th c. BC, a period much later than the earliest evidence for Semitic

This has got to be one of the most biased videos on Youtube. It is simply based on outdated and erroneous historical accounts.

1. The Author depends on the Bible in many parts of the video. Well, newsflash, the Bible is not an authentic history book at all. It is filled with historical and scientific howlers.

2. Archaeology and anthropolgy DOES NOT support this video. There has never been any kind of archaeology in the Arabian peninsula. Modern Archaeology does not support the Bible at all.

LOL, BS! all Arabs go back to Qahtan, Adnan, and both are Semites, so cut the crap buddy!

I am not an arab but Abraham had 2 sons they were Isaac and Ishmail(ismail). Ismail was arabize by the local arab community in mecca city and adopted the arab culture.Ismail started the quraish tribes, the tribe of Prophet Mohamed(P.B.U.H). Quraish tribe is not the original arabs but they are arabize. The true arabs are assyrians and arabs who lived in palestine orsyria region.Assyrians are the childrensofshem which havelong linage.The children of Shem were Elam, Asshur,Aram,Arpachshad and Lud.

im not sure what do you mean, but in the presentation u were generlizing results denying the ibrahimic oregion of the arabs according to archilogist assumptions which are not totally convicing

I refer to the pre islamic poetry as a main source for the ibrahimic legacy which oreintailists are trying to deny

if you can speak arabic i might discuss this with you clearly cuz my english can not help

if you don't, please be pateint with me, ask me what u wish and i will answer

In the ancient records the Arabia was known under the name of "Kush", which was extended throughout the entire region between Southern Mesopotamia in the north and the White Nile Basin in the south, that is, including both sides of the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. There has been a distinction between Northern and Southern Arabia since early times, distinction that endured for centuries. So, Arabs are the result of the fusion of both entities developed over the original Kushite background.

 but the religious minority Lebanese and Syrians are Arabicized, as well as the must'arib Muslims of the mountainous regions of those countries.

Please provide evidence that the Palestinian Arabs trace back to the Canaanites or Philistines (who were Greek). You'll find that impossible as Canaanite culture disappeared about a millennium before the Islamic Expansion. The only cultures in the area at the time were Jewish, Samaritan, and Byzantine.

by the way, archiologists who depended on sculpters and carvs founded in arabic penesula did not mind that arabs where not writers or readers ever..apart from Hemyar they were saving their history in narratied poetry and that is why they were depending completly on narrating not writing

even Quraan recording was depending on narrating and was not written until the last days of prophet mohammad

narrating was an arabic tradition that holded history and language more then writing

You're quite mistaken. The Assyrians and the Arabs of the Nejd and Hijaz are of different types. See Kappers, C. U. Ariens, The Anthropology of the Near East.

Close. The Jews are rather closely related to the Lebanese, and less so but somewhat with the Syrians. The Palestine Arabs are much more closely related to Bedouin and Saudis.

You have overlooked a major element in the discussion:

A- The Arabs of the Arabian peninsula do not share the exact same lineage or phenotype. There are two major categories of Arabs: one that is called "Aarebah" and their origin is believed to be in Yemen and the other one is referred to as "Mostaarebah" which are the desendant of Ishmail and from which prophet Muhammed PBUH was genetically derived).

The substantial difference in relative frequency of markers in Phoenicians, Samaritans, Jews, Assyrians, etc. on the one hand and ethnic Arabs on the other indicates a high improbability that one population group is derivative of the other.

I did not imagine myself to write quraish are infact arabize but its true.Your question was are arabs semite? Yes, you dont have agree assyrian being arabs but all of them are descesdent of shem.

as for the pre-islamic poetry i have tons of references, but the problem they are all in Arabic language. in the video you mentioned that Yemenis are not descendant of joktan. from where you get you information??? why don't you search in the internet and look for the remaining architecture and temples.

you mentioned that there is no evidance from the quran supporting that Ishmael was in arabia, what about the Mcca, and building the house of God there (Kaba). you seemed to neglect the kngdom of Sheeba in yemen. another thing, the lineage of prophet mohammed or his family (the Hashmites) was not established after aslam, but this fact was known even before the birth of the Prophet. i suggest to look at the pre-islamic arabic poetry. the Adnani (adnan the desendent of Ishmael) is before islam

In fact, you'll find that Palestinian Arabs are most closely related to the bedouin outside of the Arabian peninsula (see "Origin, Diffusion, and Differentiation of Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J", Am. J. Hum. Genet. 74:1023--1034, 2004).

I agree that most of the Syrians and Lebanese are of Semitic lineage. This would explain why the Syrians, Lebanese, Jews, and Assyrians cluster together genetically and phenotypically and do not cluster as closely to the non-Semitic Arab Bedouin and Saudis.

you mentioned that there is no evidance from the quran supporting that Ishmael was in arabia, what about the Mcca, and building the house of God there (Kaba). you seemed to neglect the kngdom of Sheeba in yemen. another thing, the lineage of prophet mohammed or his family (the Hashmites) was not established after aslam, but this fact was known even before the birth of the Prophet. i suggest to look at the pre-islamic arabic poetry. the Adnani (adnan the desendent of Ishmael) is before islam

The Palestinian Christians and certain Muslim fellaheen tribes and clans of mountain regions are of Jewish descent, however the Palestinian Arabs of the cities and deserts are of Arab descent.